Top 100 in [email protected]

[AlphaZ]

"I personally don't really care about the single rank up for getting Team Jiggmin into the Top 100. A rank up is almost meaningless to most PR2 players, and it's not like we're likely to get there anyway."

 - I think most people don't really care for a single rank. However, if there is going to be a prize I do care how it's awarded. I think it's unfair to award a free +1 to people who haven't folded 1 point.

"To the discussion about [email protected] prizes, it would be nice to reward those who have made an outstanding contribution to Team Jiggmin. However, I don't think adding more prizes to the ladder is the right solution."

- I agree with this. I don't think spam adding rewards fixes anything either.

"We already have [email protected] prizes like Rank Tokens (and formerly, Crown and Cowboy Hats) to encourage people to fold, so we should also have PR2-exclusive prizes to encourage people to play PR2."

- Artifact isn't PR2 exclusive though. You need to go out of your way to make an account on a forum to participate in a chance to win an artifact. I don't consider anything outside of the PR2 client itself to be "PR2-exclusive." There is an important distinction between "PR2-exclusive" and "contest exclusive" to be made here and that's largely where the problem is. There is a problem with locking artifact behind 1 method of obtainment in the same way there would be a problem in locking artifact only by folding. I'm fine with contests having exclusive sets because sets aren't core to an account and do not impact game states. You don't need to wear crocodile set to play certain maps, but you would need artifact to play maps locked behind artifact hat only maps. Additionally, including artifact as a [email protected] reward doesn't take away from contests. This is where my problem is, you're protecting the "rarity" of sets/hats because you have them. I'm not sure you'd have that opinion if you had none of those sets.

"Keep in mind that other people may not want to invest thousands of dollars in a powerful folding rig, but that doesn't mean we should make permanent Rank Tokens obtainable outside of [email protected]."

- I'm actually not against this idea. I think +8 rank tokens should be obtainable outside of [email protected], but I do not think it should exceed 8. This would allow players who can not fold to get those tokens. There's nothing wrong with that idea in the same way there's nothing wrong with adding artifact to folding. That aside, it's a bit unfair to compare ranks in the same light as sets and the artifact. Ranks can still be obtained in game whereas contest exclusive hats and sets can not. The opportunity to obtain those things is significantly less than others.

additional thoughts -

I think adding more ways to obtain artifact outside of the ones mentioned would be nice. Some ideas could be doing an artifact hat giveaway once per month using the giveaway system on the JV2 discord.

[Master Raiden]

- Artifact isn't PR2 exclusive though. You need to go out of your way to make an account on a forum to participate in a chance to win an artifact. I don't consider anything outside of the PR2 client itself to be "PR2-exclusive." There is an important distinction between "PR2-exclusive" and "contest exclusive" to be made here and that's largely where the problem is. There is a problem with locking artifact behind 1 method of obtainment in the same way there would be a problem in locking artifact only by folding. I'm fine with contests having exclusive sets because sets aren't core to an account and do not impact game states. You don't need to wear crocodile set to play certain maps, but you would need artifact to play maps locked behind artifact hat only maps. Additionally, including artifact as a [email protected] reward doesn't take away from contests. This is where my problem is, you're protecting the "rarity" of sets/hats because you have them. I'm not sure you'd have that opinion if you had none of those sets.

Yeah, I'm trying to not be biased.

Years ago when fewer people had the Artifact, you would know that anyone with an Artifact was pretty good at the game. While the hat is almost useless in races, it's kind of like a trophy to mark an achievement you made. Making it available as a folding prize will take that aspect of Artifact ownership away. At least that's how I see it, from the perspective of someone who plays PR2 a lot.

- I'm actually not against this idea. I think +8 rank tokens should be obtainable outside of [email protected], but I do not think it should exceed 8. This would allow players who can not fold to get those tokens.

I'm glad you said this. It makes it a lot easier to understand why you want more prizes to be available through [email protected].

[Different]

Why is the Artifact hat even a debatable topic?? The design of it looks retarded, it's abilities are utterly useless, and most of all it's just a big ass rock with awkward-looking sticks, sticking out from the sides of it. If this were a pay2win set, I wouldn't even bother folding for it. The only thing that's even a debatable topic is the tokens that we can keep, permanently.

For instance, if we did 500,000,000 million [email protected] points for 9 tokens and 1,000,000,000 [email protected] points for 10 tokens, then that's a real achievement. Not some, pitiful-looking rock with sticks on it. It's amazing how the game developer can design something so poorly, give it a ridiculous name, and then make you guys work for it. Think about this, readers. You're squandering your time to earn the right to possess something that deals no reward value for your gameplay.

[Camer the Dragon]

Why is the Artifact hat even a debatable topic?? [I dislike the design], it's abilities are utterly useless, and most of all it's just a big ass rock with awkward-looking sticks, sticking out from the sides of it. If this were a pay2win set, I wouldn't even bother folding for it. The only thing that's even a debatable topic is the tokens that we can keep, permanently.

For instance, if we did 500,000,000 million [email protected] points for 9 tokens and 1,000,000,000 [email protected] points for 10 tokens, then that's a real achievement. Not some, pitiful-looking rock with sticks on it. It's amazing how the game developer can design something so poorly, give it a ridiculous name, and then make you guys work for it. Think about this, readers. You're squandering your time to earn the right to possess something that deals no reward value for your gameplay.

I think people like it moreso because it's like unlocking a joke char in a game and also bigger hat number
Also I mean that reasoning at the end can be there for legit anything in PR2 if you don't think the game is worth time
The artifact can be useful but only in super specific situations, e.g. it's usually useful to win on Newbieland 2 but it's moreso meant as a fun "hey look I have this hat that was in the past just a treasure hunt non-obtainable one"

[Camer the Dragon]

Another possibility that is being discussed is a lottery system where players who fold more would get more tokens to participate in a draw of something like a [email protected] set [which is given temporarily], but players who fold less would still get tokens.

@Colind What do you think of this btw?

[Different]

I think people like it moreso because it's like unlocking a joke char in a game and also bigger hat number
Also I mean that reasoning at the end can be there for legit anything in PR2 if you don't think the game is worth time
The artifact can be useful but only in super specific situations, e.g. it's usually useful to win on Newbieland 2 but it's moreso meant as a fun "hey look I have this hat that was in the past just a treasure hunt non-obtainable one"

Yes, but how many people do you know, actually play Newbieland 2?... You see my point? Bro, I was in that tournament back in fall of 2014 and I used to think that that hat was the shit. I was awarded that hat, 8 years ago when it was considered "special". But, now looking back on it, I should have spent more time grinding my experience points to rank up.

[Colind]

@Colind What do you think of this btw?

I do like the token idea, the way I see it, I don't see how it will be kept fair unless they do a live broadcast from the generator pick that actual entered all the name because any of the PR2 Staff can make sure not everyone get these sets. 

I have a few ideas at the moment,

1) I was wondering if we can create something like VoM but for FAH. 

Example: Ben can set every 750,000 FAH points you FAH you will get "+1 FAH tokens" and you can collect as many as you FAH and trade them in for Sets/hats/Epic version etc. 

2) If I did the math right, there's about 141 parts through PR2 and 15 hats so that's a total of 156 x2 because epic version of said parts that will get you 312 that you can create throughout the FAH point ladder. 

I have a side-project (Excel) that I started today that from point 1 and every 5M fah points you get rewarded a part throughout PR2. 

I am using this website to get the part name: https://jiggmin.fandom.com/wiki/Platform...Body_Parts 

I am not sure if I can share an excel link to here so all of you guys can see but if anyone knows please PM me or comment below

3) Player can donate their experience points from their exp bar to get sets/hats that they need. 

There has to be methods where players that can't do the contest can still get the set/hat they want in the game.

Thanks,

Colind

[Robo]

Coming back after a three year break and it's nice seeing the admins still trying to gatekeep things that mattered like 7 plus years ago.

At this point why not just add any and all incentive to the guys who are still actively logging in and engaging with the extremely dwindling player base.

Side note: I'll be folding Fears, Robobot, Please, and Forgiveness all to 100mil to contribute. My PPD ranges from 6mil-10mil ppd depending on which WU's are given.