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16th September 2024, 12:27 PM
Tl;dr: You find out that your best friend (since elementary school) is a murderer who’s a MAFIA member. He’s murdered over 5,000 people (including your parents) in the last 10 years. He’s also a pornaholic and a sex trafficker. Are you still going to be friends with him and forgive this guy?
Let me ask you all a hypothetical question: suppose you had a best friend whom you’ve known since elementary school. You guys have been together through thick and thin, looked out for each other, supported each others’ needs, have many things in common, and shared personal issues.
However, you later find out that they’re a murderer. They’ve been getting away with murder for 10 years now, and they’re part of a MAFIA; this is the one thing that you don’t know about them. You see, they’ve always been an angel around you and other people that you’ve associated yourself with. But then later on, those people mysteriously disappeared from your life because your best friend murdered them behind your back; the MAFIA is their secret life.
He’s getting paid $50k - $250k for these murders. The same man who took you to a fancy restaurant in a Bugatti Chiron. You ask him, “where the hell did you get that kind of money from?” He tells you that he’s been Day Trading and investing in stocks for a long time. At first, it sounds pretty legitimate because it’s a sustainable income if you know what you’re doing. He’s been manipulating you for years because you don’t really know what kind of person he really is. For years he’s been hiding a dark side from you, and a psychopathic personality that you were unaware of.
One day the police shows up at your house and says that they just raided a secret hideout where a large MAFIA was selling drugs, doing hit pieces, sex trafficking, illegal gambling, weed, etc. They then tell you that your best friend is part of this operation. Based on all the reports they’ve gathered up on him, they’ve found out that he’s murdered over 5,000 people in the last 10 years, including your parents. However, your friends’ defense is that he’s had a personality disorder for years now, and that you knew about it and didn’t try to stop him.
After you explain to them that you had no idea what kind of lifestyle he was living, they then tell you to show them where he lives. Fast forward, you guys arrive at his place and find all kinds of serial killer weapons inside his basement (which happens to be a metal door with 5 locks on it). The house looks normal with 3 super sports cars, but the basement doesn’t. You’re flabbergasted because he’s running a sex trafficking raid with teenage girls being tied up screaming for help.
Fast forward again, after your best friend gets life in prison without parole, and you find out all these things about him… will you forgive him and still continue to be friends with him?
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16th September 2024, 8:33 PM
Surprised you went for 5000 people, I feel that even after 5-10 the answer would be a resounding no from basically anyone. I would say no even if it was 1 person I was close with and unless they had an extremely good defence (e.g. self-defence) then not even for 1 general person.
I would say no for trafficking of that nature as well.
Below is if it's just the things on their own not including any of the top stuff:
Some of the things like doing illegal drugs like they should get rehab but if they are doing it decently then yeah.
Selling them is a different story and would take more convincing and a longer time after for the possibility.
Illegal gambling it honestly depends on severity.
If they're part of a mafia honestly it's a pretty shit situation to be in bc you don't wanna mess with that but either staying as their friend or not being their friend anymore both can have severe downsides in that situation.
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16th September 2024, 11:10 PM
I don't associate with murderers. Plain and simple. That's not even counting all of the other heinous actions you listed.
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17th September 2024, 12:55 PM
(16th September 2024, 8:33 PM)Camer the Dragon Wrote: Surprised you went for 5000 people, I feel that even after 5-10 the answer would be a resounding no from basically anyone. I would say no even if it was 1 person I was close with and unless they had an extremely good defence (e.g. self-defence) then not even for 1 general person.
I would say no for trafficking of that nature as well.
What if their defense is that they have serious mental health issues such as psychosis, sociopath, etc?
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17th September 2024, 12:59 PM
Even if I wanted to be friends with them, if they murdered 5000 people I'm pretty sure they're never seeing the light of day again, they're like the most wanted person in the country at that point.
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17th September 2024, 1:12 PM
(17th September 2024, 12:59 PM)tadtad Wrote: Even if I wanted to be friends with them, if they murdered 5000 people I'm pretty sure they're never seeing the light of day again, they're like the most wanted person in the country at that point.
What if he comes to you and says, “hey Tadtad, I’m really sorry for what I did, man. I’ve just been struggling with mental illnesses and can’t help but do something evil. Can you cover for me? I’ll pay you $5m from all the money I’ve made in the mafia.”
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17th September 2024, 3:32 PM
(17th September 2024, 12:55 PM)Different Wrote: What if their defense is that they have serious mental health issues such as psychosis, sociopath, etc?
Well that's a core part of themself and if it caused them to do so much like that, then that's unfortunately gonna be a dealbreaker for them
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