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In the following experiment, I rolled a ball into another ball to find out if their masses were different. Following the law of Conservation of Energy, the speed × mass should remain constant.

e.g. A force that makes a 1kg ball move at 1 m/s would:
• Make a 2kg ball move at 0.5 m/s
• Make a 0.5kg ball move at 2 m/s

So if the masses of the balls are different, rolling a small ball into a larger ball (left) should result in both of them moving very slowly, and rolling a large ball into a small ball (right) should only cause a slight reduction in speed.

If their masses are the same, both balls would move at 0.5x the speed of the ball that was dropped regardless of the size.

You can try this out for yourself, but I am pretty certain that all balls have the same mass after testing it out.

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Yeah, the physics aren't quite as polished as the official Suika game. The one with the fruit.
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I'm curious if any of you could score 3k in the official Suika. I'd say it's harder than 9k in the Holo one.
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I think Different could. Master Raiden probably could with enough practice.
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(24th October 2023, 6:28 PM)Master Raiden Wrote: I feel like the small balls are just as capable of pushing away other balls as the big balls. Especially in the first suika game with the funny sound effects, the small ones felt like they were made of solid metal.

So it might be worth testing it out. We can't really assume that the mass is proportional to the size unless we see how the game was developed.

It really depends on where you drop them. If you drop them at an obtuse angle, then the speed (regardless of the mass) is pretty much the same, yes. But, this is only provided that you drop the balls off another one, at an obtuse angle. Now, if you were to have a situation where you drop a small ball directly onto a larger one (and you can't hit it at an obtuse angle), then there's little to no effect because the force is weak.

(24th October 2023, 6:53 PM)Master Raiden Wrote: In the following experiment, I rolled a ball into another ball to find out if their masses were different. Following the law of Conservation of Energy, the speed × mass should remain constant.

e.g. A force that makes a 1kg ball move at 1 m/s would:
• Make a 2kg ball move at 0.5 m/s
• Make a 0.5kg ball move at 2 m/s

So if the masses of the balls are different, rolling a small ball into a larger ball (left) should result in both of them moving very slowly, and rolling a large ball into a small ball (right) should only cause a slight reduction in speed.

If their masses are the same, both balls would move at 0.5x the speed of the ball that was dropped regardless of the size.

I'll have to test this theory out and let you know either in my new thread, or on this thread. As long as you hit the balls at an obtuse angle, then there's a possibility that your theory can be proven correct. However, there are other situations that might make this theory, counterproductive, and I'll explain why, eventually.

Eventually, I'll explain how Newton's First Law of Motion: Inertia can be helpful in certain situations aside from this, where you may not necessarily be able to hit the balls from an obtuse angle.
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(24th October 2023, 7:58 PM)Mia Wrote: I'm curious if any of you could score 3k in the official Suika. I'd say it's harder than 9k in the Holo one.

I could easily do 3k or more because I understand the physics behind the game, and I know a few tricks.
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The official Suika Game got an international release. Now you don't have to jump through hoops to play it outside of Japan.
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(24th October 2023, 10:12 PM)Different Wrote: I could easily do 3k or more because I understand the physics behind the game, and I know a few tricks.

I mean, you say that, but the physics aren't exactly the same as the Holo one.
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I'm not saying you couldn't do it, though. You probably could with a good run.
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(24th October 2023, 11:30 PM)Mia Wrote: The official Suika Game got an international release. Now you don't have to jump through hoops to play it outside of Japan.

What's the link?
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(24th October 2023, 11:34 PM)Mia Wrote: I mean, you say that, but the physics aren't exactly the same as the Holo one.

We'll see
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(25th October 2023, 9:04 AM)Different Wrote: What's the link?

You still need a Switch to play it, but here: https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/produc...me-switch/
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I guess that means we're not all the way at the finish line, then. Damn it! I wish they would make this version available for Pc/Mac as well. They'd probably profit a lot more money that way. Yeah, I'm stickin' with team Holo over here.
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@Mia Remember you told me last year that you were gonna play Need for Speed III Hot Pursuit on PS1 emulator?
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THIS game is kinda disturbing.
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I don't use emulators
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(25th October 2023, 1:24 PM)Mia Wrote: I don't use emulators

Just record the ole', fashion way?
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We're completely void of thought with no human feelings.
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How long do we have before the end of the world?
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